Craps Place Bets Payouts

1. Craps Place Bet Payouts
2. Payouts On Craps Bets
3. Craps Odds Betting
4. Craps Place Bets Payouts
5. Place Bet Odds
6. Craps Payouts Formula

Question #3 is even trickier. The answer is $36. I knew you’d get the correct answer! The Place odds for the 4 are 9:5, which means for every $5 you bet and win, you win $9. If you make a $20 Place bet on the 4 and win, just do some quick and easy math in your head to figure it. The hardest thing about making Place bets is remembering the multiples that you need to bet for each pairing and the payout when you win (review our other article about basic craps math to learn about the “pairings”). The bet multiple depends on the Place odds. Let’s look at the pairing 4 and 10, which has Place odds of 9:5.

How to win at Craps with Place Bets on 6 & 8 only.

Today we continuing our recent series on craps betting strategies. We’ve already talked about two unique systems, or betting patterns, known as the 3 Point Molly and the Iron Cross. This time we’ll take a look at a cheaper craps system that offers similar odds of winning.

In short, the object is to set equal wagers on Place 6 and Place 8. At a table with $5 minimums, it will cost as little as $12 to set up ($6 per bet). You won’t be tossing out another $12 per roll, either. Best of all, it offers a house edge of just 1.52%; worse than strategy-based blackjack, but far better than roulette, and similar to baccarat.

That is, of course, the simple explanation. Keep reading to find out why this is one of the better ways to safely manage your bankroll, and ensure maximum entertainment for your wagering dollars.

How to Win at Craps with Place Bets on 6 & 8

Place Bets are wagers that can be made on a specific number. They’re often referred to as Point or Box numbers, because they’re the only numbers that can be established as a point on the shooter’s come out roll. They include 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10.

The odds associated with each Place Bet number varies. The following chart shows the true odds, payout, and resulting house edge for each. Examine closely, and you’ll see why Place Bets on 6 and 8 are the only viable options for this craps betting strategy.

Lowest House Edge on 6 and 8

Because the 6 and 8 payout closest to the true odds, they offer the lowest house edge of 1.52% All other Place Bets present terrible odds of 4% to 6.67%. As every gambler knows, the lower the edge, the better the chance of winning.

6-Unit Increments Only!

The chart also shows why we must place these wagers in increments of $6. Place Bets on 6 and 8 pay 7-to-6, meaning for every 6 units wagered, a win will pay 7 units. If you were to place a $5 wager, you would get only $5 in return since the boxman rounds payouts to the nearest dollar. Suffice to say, $6 bets are critical to the value of this strategy.

Place Bets Ride It Out

Unlike Field Bets, which last for a single roll, Place Bets remain on the table until the shooter craps out (rolls a 7). If the shooter rolls a 3, a 9, a 5, another 3, a 12, a 4, a pair of 10s and then finally rolls an 8, you still win. All of those previous rolls mean nothing. Your bet is never removed unless a 7 rolls, in which case you lose them both.

Even when you win on 6 or 8, the bet stays in play. You will receive the winnings, but the bet doesn’t come down until a 7 is rolled, or you tell the boxman to remove it (your bet is returned).

Odds of Crapping Out

Last but not least, let’s take a look at the odds of rolling a 6 or 8, versus crapping out with a 7.

• 6: The odds of rolling a 6 are 13.89%
• 7: The odds of rolling a 7 are 16.67%
• 8: The odds of rolling an 8 are 13.89%

Technically, the 7 has the higher odds of rolling. However, since you’re betting on 6 and 8, you combine these odds for a 27.78% chance of winning, versus 16.67% chance of losing. That leaves a 55.55% chance of any other number rolling (i.e. nothing happens).

While that sounds like incredible odds, let’s remember each win brings you a 7-unit payout, while each loss results in a 12-unit decline. Thus, all in all, you have a 1.52% house edge to compete with, which comes out to a negative expectation of $1.52 per $100, or a loss of $0.18 per $12.

As always, the casino has the advantage, so you can’t expect every time that you’ll win at craps with Place Bets on 6 and 8. But expecting to lose $0.18 each time the shooter craps out offers a whole lot of entertainment value on a budget bankroll. With a little luck and responsibility on your part (i.e. knowing when to walk away), you just might come away with some extra change in your pocket!

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This post is necessary for the Real Craps Game video that will come this Thursday.

Craps Place Bet Payouts

A few people have asked about more high stakes videos. Well, this Thursday, I will be posting a high stakes craps game that involves put bets. At first, I was going to do another high stakes video involving pass line+odds or come+odds. When it comes to high stakes bets, I refuse to give up too much advantage to the house. The problem with the RoadGambler method of play is that I’ve already done it three times on video; it was time for something new.

At the same time, as few people on various Facebook groups were asking about put bets. That’s where I hatched the idea of a put bet video.

Payouts On Craps Bets

It is time to put out another high stakes game while also answering the question of, ‘what is a put bet?’

For the very short and simple explanation, skip to the very end.

WHAT IS A PUT BET?

A put bet is simply a pass + odds or come + odds combination where the player gives up the advantage of the come out roll. That’s all there is to it.

Here is a pic from the upcoming game. This is $5250 worth of put bets. Like I said, it’s going to be a high stakes game with yours truly playing it out for your entertainment.

For reference, the pass line or come bet portion of the bet is known as the ‘flat’ because it pays even money.

Here is a close up that breaks up and shows the flat and odds part of the bet…

With standard pass+odds and come+odds betting, the player has a 2 – 1 advantage on the flat bet on the come out roll. On a put bet, the player gives up this advantage.

Reasons why Players May Prefer Put Bets

Players typically prefer put bets (over pass+odds or come+odds) for the same reason players prefer place bets.

Some players hate to see numbers rolled and not be paid.

Also, with a put bet, the player can select which number to bet and ‘put’ that number. Players who believe in ‘trends’ value the ability to select the number as a great advantage.

With a come bet, the player does not select the number; rather the dice selects the number.

WHEN TO USE PUT BETS OVER PLACE BETS

The following is the break even point for a put bet and place for each point is as follows..

• Point of 6 or 8, 5x odds
• Point of 5 or 9, 4x odds
• Point of 4 and 10…

• —If the commission is paid after the win, the player needs 19x
• —If the commission is paid before the win, the the player needs only 6x odds

(source: Wizard of Odds)

Note that the above is only true if the player has his or her odds working 100% of the time. If the player does not work the odds 100% of the time, the multiplier is higher.

Here is what I mean by the ‘break even point’…

On a place bet of 6 or 8, a $30 win on either number pays $35

On a put bet of 6 or 8, a $30 win on either number also pays $35.

Both bets pay exactly the same amount.

On a put bet of 6 or 8, the $30 bet is broken down into $5+$25. In such a bet, the flat pays $5 and the odds pay $30, for a total of $35. Remember that for this break even point to be true, the odds must work 100% of the time.

Example of Why a Put Bet Can be Better than a Place Bet

Let’s say the point is 6.

• —win will pay $70

• Put bet of $60, which is broken into $5 + $55 (11x odds)

• —the payout on a win will be $5 on the flat and $66 on the odds, for a total of $71

So on the same bet, the player wins an extra $1 for the same win-loss conditions as a place bet.

Let’s use a higher multiplier than 11x. Let’s assume the player is a high roller and plays on a 100x max odds table.

• —a win will pay $700

• put bet of $600, which is broken into $10 + $590 (59x odds)

• —the payout on a win will be $10 on the flat and $708 on the odds, for a total of $718

So on the same $600 bet, the player wins an extra $18 for the same win-loss conditions as a place bet.

Let’s do another example with another point.

Point of 5

• —win will pay $140

• put bet of $100, which is broken into $10 + $90 (9x odds)

• —the payout on a win will be be $10 on the flat and $135 on the odds, for a total of $145

So on the same $100 bet, the player wins an extra $5 for the same win-loss conditions as a place bet.

Let’s use a higher multiplier for the same point of 5. Let’s assume the player is a high roller and plays on a 100x max odds table.

Point is 5

• —win will pay $700

• put bet for $500, which is broken into $10 + 490 (49x odds)

• —the payout on a win will be $10 on the flat and $735 on the odds, for a total payout of $745

So on the same $500 bet, the player wins an extra $45 for the same win-loss conditions as a place bet. This means the player receives an extra $45 for doing nothing more than ‘knowing’.

This is another reason why 100x tables are so powerful. Many players argue that 100x odds games have no inherent advantage because, in the end, the 100x bettor and the $5 low roller will have the same, realized loss. But a 100x max odds table allows for players to ‘put’ higher odds, which results in winning extra money for doing nothing more than having knowledge.

Why It’s Important to Know the Break Even Multiplier

If you go below the break even multiplier, you are better off placing the number.

The following is an example of why…

Point is 5

• —win will pay $42

• put bet for $30, which is broken into $10 + $20 (2x odds)

• —the payout on a win will be $10 on the flat and $30 on the odds, for a total payout of $40

So on the same $30 bet, the player loses $2 on the put bet because the multiplier was not high enough. That’s why it’s important to know the break even multiplier.

If you are in doubt, then go with this imperfect rule across the board: your odds must be at least 5x in the points of 5, 6, 8, and 9 and do not put the 4 and 10. It’s not a perfect rule, but it will prevent you from losing too much.

HOW TO MAKE A PUT BET

To play the put bet, tender your chips in the same way you would tender your chips for a place bet and say that you want to put the number.

The result of you saying ‘put’ is that the position and stacking of your chips should look like a come bet.

You can put multiple points. If you put multiple points, it would avoid confusion (and is polite to the dealer) to cut out your individual puts first. For example, if you’re placing 6 and 8, you can just tender $120 in one stack.

But if you put 6 and 8 for $50 each, cut your chips into two $50 stacks.

WARNING: if your bet is positioned and stacked like a place bet, then it’s a place bet. You will be shorted on the payout if you do not verify that it is a put and not a place bet. Just for reference, here is what your put bet positioning should look like…

To make sure, ask your friendly dealer, is that a ‘put bet or a place bet?’ I generally do not like yes or no questions in this case because the casino environment can be loud.

DOWNSIDE TO THE PUT BET

There are three major downsides to the put bet.

The first downside is that sometimes dealers are not familiar with put bets, and here can be confusion about what to do. You will see an example of this a couple of times in the put bet videos.

Craps Odds Betting

The second downside is that many casinos, where it would be advantageous to use put bets, do not allow put bets. That’s really the main problem with put bets. They’re hard to find.

The third problem is that put betting requires a rather stout bankroll to play for any period of time. Players on a limited bankroll – such as $100 – are not going to be able to use put bets, unless they want to have a very short stacked bankroll.

Addendum:

Craps Place Bets Payouts

Reader Henry S. asked two great questions about the put bet that requires me to add this downside, especially if you’re the type of player who likes to move his or her place bet around.

The put bet is treated exactly like a pass+odds and come+odds combo. The player can call off or take down the odds portion of the bet, but the flat is a contract bet.

Similarly, if the player wishes to move their put bet number to another number, the player must pay for the flat portion of the new number. The ‘old’ number would then have a name flat bet with no odds, and the player would play it out as it it had no odds.

Without spoiling too much of what is to come in the videos, you will see this in action in Part 2. It will become very clear.

ROADGAMBLER THOUGHTS ON THE PUT BET

I prefer pass and come bets to the put bet.

Mathematically, pass and come + odds are still a better play. For the players who absolutely insist on the place bet, if the casino allows put bets, and the player is playing high enough of a multiplier, there is little reason to not use the put bet.

TL;DR

Put bets are simply the pass+odds or come+odds combination bet where the player foregoes the come out roll. The bet is paid exactly like how a pass+odds or come+odds would be paid.

The casino has the advantage on the flat bet portion of the put bet, but on the odds portion of the put bet, there is no house edge.

That’s it!

Place Bet Odds

If you’re still confused, you will be able to watch actual putt bets in action this coming Thursday.

In the meantime, if you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them in the comment section below.

Craps Payouts Formula

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